IPv4 assignment to resident user
Dear colleagues, I was searching www.ripe.net website for a document where it says that IPv4 block can NOT be allocated to resident user (not company). Can you, guys, please point me to appropriate url? Thank you! Jaka
On Mon, 2005-02-07 at 09:56 +0100, Jaka Erjavec wrote:
Dear colleagues,
I was searching www.ripe.net website for a document where it says that IPv4 block can NOT be allocated to resident user (not company).
RIR's (RIPE/ARIN/APNIC/LACNIC/AFNIC) allocate to a LIR, which allocates the block to an ISP who could _assign_ it to an endsite. An endsite can be a company but also an residence/enduser. Allocations to endsites are afaik not possible, but assignments for sure are. Greets, Jeroen
On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 10:02:00AM +0100, Jeroen Massar wrote:
On Mon, 2005-02-07 at 09:56 +0100, Jaka Erjavec wrote:
Dear colleagues,
I was searching www.ripe.net website for a document where it says that IPv4 block can NOT be allocated to resident user (not company).
Allocations to endsites are afaik not possible, but assignments for sure are.
All the legal docs also talk about natural persons, so If you can buy enough PC's to justify the initial allocation and have the money and time to become an LIR I don't see big problems on getting your very own PA-allocation :) MarcoH
On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 10:12:17 +0100, MarcoH <marcoh@marcoh.net> wrote:
On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 10:02:00AM +0100, Jeroen Massar wrote:
On Mon, 2005-02-07 at 09:56 +0100, Jaka Erjavec wrote:
Dear colleagues,
I was searching www.ripe.net website for a document where it says that IPv4 block can NOT be allocated to resident user (not company).
Allocations to endsites are afaik not possible, but assignments for sure are.
All the legal docs also talk about natural persons, so If you can buy enough PC's to justify the initial allocation and have the money and time to become an LIR I don't see big problems on getting your very own PA-allocation :)
Thank you all for these quick replys. I used wrong term (allocation), when I meant assignment. Jaka
Hi, On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 10:12:17AM +0100, MarcoH wrote:
All the legal docs also talk about natural persons, so If you can buy enough PC's to justify the initial allocation and have the money and time to become an LIR I don't see big problems on getting your very own PA-allocation :)
Actually, there is no initial "size" criteria anymore. So in theory, a private person might be able to be come a LIR, provided that you get a second person to stand up as tech-c: (AFAIR you need two persons that state "yes, we will follow the RIPE guidelines!"). Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations: 71007 (66629) SpaceNet AG Mail: netmaster@Space.Net Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Tel : +49-89-32356-0 80807 Muenchen Fax : +49-89-32356-299
Gert Doering wrote:
All the legal docs also talk about natural persons, so If you can buy enough PC's to justify the initial allocation and have the money and time to become an LIR I don't see big problems on getting your very own PA-allocation :)
Actually, there is no initial "size" criteria anymore.
Indeed, we now allocate IPv4 address space after the LIR's first assignment request has been evaluated and approved. Regards, -- leo vegoda RIPE NCC Registration Services Manager
On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 09:56:51AM +0100, Jaka Erjavec wrote:
Dear colleagues,
I was searching www.ripe.net website for a document where it says that IPv4 block can NOT be allocated to resident user (not company).
Can you, guys, please point me to appropriate url?
Hi, Afaik your looking for something which doesn't exist, as long as the LIR agrees to it and the forms are filled in correctly a residential customer can get IP space. See RIPE-324 for more details on what's considered valid. Grtx, MarcoH
On Monday 07 February 2005 08:56, Jaka Erjavec wrote:
Dear colleagues,
I was searching www.ripe.net website for a document where it says that IPv4 block can NOT be allocated to resident user (not company).
Can you, guys, please point me to appropriate url?
Residential users certainly could get an allocation - would be a bit unusual though. All they'd have to do is fill in the necessary justification and pay the RIPE fees. It would be more likely for a residential user to get an assignment from an upstream ISP. Jon
Hi, On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 09:56:51AM +0100, Jaka Erjavec wrote:
I was searching www.ripe.net website for a document where it says that IPv4 block can NOT be allocated to resident user (not company).
Can you, guys, please point me to appropriate url?
First of all, a clarification: * "allocated" means "given to a registry". An "allocation" is never given to an end user (be it a company or a resident user). What a local registry (LIR) gets from RIPE is an "allocation". * Address blocks given to "end users" (of all sorts) are "assignments". Then, to answer your question: there is no document that says "resident users must not receive an IP address assignment". The reason for that is: it is perfectly *valid* to give static IP address assignments to end users - provided they provide appropriate documentation that they will use it. If a residential customer has 10 devices at home that all can speak IP, it is *perfectly fine* (!!) to assign a /28 network to this customer. RIPE does *not* mandate dynamic addressing or NAT. (But it is expected that you think about it, before making a decision pro or contra NAT). Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations: 71007 (66629) SpaceNet AG Mail: netmaster@Space.Net Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Tel : +49-89-32356-0 80807 Muenchen Fax : +49-89-32356-299
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