They need IP more than every country and they can't have even ONE IPv6.
What's stoping Iranian LIRs getting an IPv6 allocation from the NCC?
Iran has a lot of IPv6 allocation but can't announce any.
Even they can't buy IP from outside of country because of sanctions.
Solving the sanctions problem isn't within RIPE's control.
RIPE NCC can ease the process. People mentioned Iran as instance, so I explained the situation. Community has to agree that Iran and similar countries are a part of community and they can see the proposals from their own view. You are talking about making IPv4 available in future, and one of the biggest user of IPv4 in future is Iran or similar countries, so it seems we have to look at them. -- Shahin Gharghi
On Wednesday, 21 October 2015, Shahin Gharghi <shahin@gharghi.ir> wrote:
They need IP more than every country and they can't have even ONE IPv6.
What's stoping Iranian LIRs getting an IPv6 allocation from the NCC?
Iran has a lot of IPv6 allocation but can't announce any.
I think the answer expected was to clarify (for whomever is interested) why Iran companies can't announce IPv6.
Even they can't buy IP from outside of country because of sanctions.
Solving the sanctions problem isn't within RIPE's control.
RIPE NCC can ease the process.
People mentioned Iran as instance, so I explained the situation. Community has to agree that Iran and similar countries are a part of community and they can see the proposals from their own view.
You are talking about making IPv4 available in future, and one of the biggest user of IPv4 in future is Iran or similar countries, so it seems we have to look at them.
Really ? We are all concerned about IPv6 future here and you think we should focus on the IPv4 future ? Didn't we all agree that IPv4 is (should be) dead ?
Again, what are you talking about sanctions ? As I mentioned Iran is the largest importer of IPv4 space and it comes from all over the region. Ciprian
On 21 Oct 2015, at 14:49, Shahin Gharghi <shahin@gharghi.ir> wrote:
What's stoping Iranian LIRs getting an IPv6 allocation from the NCC?
Iran has a lot of IPv6 allocation but can't announce any.
So the probem isn't getting or using address space, it's routing that space. This WG (and RIPE more generally) is not in a position to decide or enforce the peering and transit policies used by ISPs ad IXPs.
Even they can't buy IP from outside of country because of sanctions.
Solving the sanctions problem isn't within RIPE's control.
RIPE NCC can ease the process.
I'm not sure it can. It would be up to the RIPE community to reach consensus on a policy proposal which somehow eases Iran's sanctions problems. I doubt a policy could have that effect. If you have some ideas about how this could be done, please share them or submit a policy proposal which does that.
People mentioned Iran as instance, so I explained the situation. Community has to agree that Iran and similar countries are a part of community and they can see the proposals from their own view. You are talking about making IPv4 available in future, and one of the biggest user of IPv4 in future is Iran or similar countries, so it seems we have to look at them.
Of course Iran is part of the community. However when RIPE develops address policies here, we are supposed to consider the interests of the community as a whole and do the best (or least worst) for everyone. Current policy allows Iranian LIRs to get the same sized IPv4 allocations as everyone else. IMO they're no better off or worse off than any other LIRs in the RIPE service region who need to get v4 space from the NCC.
I'm not sure it can. It would be up to the RIPE community to reach consensus on a policy proposal which somehow eases Iran's sanctions problems. I doubt a policy could have that effect.
I don't think any government would be impressed by a RIPE Community's "policy" to reconsider political or embargo measures. My feeling is that it needs other mechanisms to potentially make a difference, by parties having a genuine interest and not being legally bound to comply with current regulations. Just my 2c, -ww144
participants (4)
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Ciprian Nica
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Jim Reid
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Shahin Gharghi
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Wilfried Woeber