If RIPE runs out of IPv4 sooner it will not help switching to v6 faster. It only means that the new entrants will have to buy the resources from the market at prices which will be obviously higher.
And what will happen if we run out of IPv4 later? People have to pay a lot of money while there are a lot of unused IPs in the world. Don't you think that's a good business for those got a lot of IPs and didn't use them?
Iran is a good example, as a country can be considered a relatively new entrant. What has happened over there ? 0.05% IPv6 adoption rate according to google stats and Iran is the #1 importing country of IPv4 resources.
This is exactly why I'm supporting this proposal. Most of you have no idea about how bad the situation is in Iran. They need IP more than every country and they can't have even ONE IPv6. Even they can't buy IP from outside of country because of sanctions.
I don't understand why there's still this confusion that if RIPE's pool will be empty, many think there will be no more IPv4 available and everyone will go the next day to IPv6. It's totally wrong.
I agree with you but at least makes it faster. -- Shahin Gharghi
If RIPE runs out of IPv4 sooner it will not help switching to v6 faster. It only means that the new entrants will have to buy the resources from the market at prices which will be obviously higher.
And what will happen if we run out of IPv4 later? People have to pay a lot of money while there are a lot of unused IPs in the world. Don't you think that's a good business for those got a lot of IPs and didn't use them?
RIPE NCC is doing a good job in my opinion shouting every time that people need to move to IPv6 and that there's no more IPv4, while preserving enough resources to "feed" newcomers for the following years. That's the right way to do things, we should not focus on what happens with RIPE's pool. That's just a small reserve and the era when millions of IPs were handed out for free is gone.
Iran is a good example, as a country can be considered a relatively new entrant. What has happened over there ? 0.05% IPv6 adoption rate according to google stats and Iran is the #1 importing country of IPv4 resources.
This is exactly why I'm supporting this proposal. Most of you have no idea about how bad the situation is in Iran. They need IP more than every country and they can't have even ONE IPv6. Even they can't buy IP from outside of country because of sanctions.
Not really, Iran has imported 2,174,464 IPs out of which 1,221,120 came from Romania. I know a few things about the situation over there but if the local rules/laws are wrong then it's up to you to change them.
I don't understand why there's still this confusion that if RIPE's pool will be empty, many think there will be no more IPv4 available and everyone will go the next day to IPv6. It's totally wrong.
I agree with you but at least makes it faster.
Who would benefit from that ? Not your country for sure. The market prices for IPv4 resources can only go up once RIPE's pool is depleted. The ones that would benefit are those that sit on piles of IPv4 and push/wait for prices to go up as they are not satisfied with current profits. I would benefit indirectly also but it's not my purpose to drive prices up. Ciprian
On 21 Oct 2015, at 13:40, Shahin Gharghi <shahin@gharghi.ir> wrote:
They need IP more than every country and they can't have even ONE IPv6.
What's stoping Iranian LIRs getting an IPv6 allocation from the NCC?
Even they can't buy IP from outside of country because of sanctions.
Solving the sanctions problem isn't within RIPE's control.
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