On Jan 7, 2014, at 6:21 AM, Thomas Narten <narten@us.ibm.com> wrote:
What does "use the allocation within the region" really mean?
If one addresses devices that physically reside outside of the region, but also routes to those devices from within the region, does that count? This is the key question.
Yes.
You say the "the fact that some of it may be used outside the region does not prevent allocation." suggests that if some of the devices are outside of the region, that is OK. But that then does mean that requestors should be able to justify space based on a combination of customers that reside "inside" and "outside" the region.
Yes.
My understanding is that in fact ARIN does not count (in justifications) addresses that will be used on devices outside of the region, which would seem to contradict your statement.
Is it in fact that justifications can include equipment that will be located outside of ARIN's region, or is it actually that all of the addresses must be used by customers/equipment within the region?
There must be some customers/equipment in the region, but it does not need to be all of them.
I don't follow this. If a multi-national has customers spread all across the world, and uses a single prefix to cover them all, and uses that prefix within ARIN's region (e.g., by advertising the aggregate from within the region), is that enough to satisfy ARIN's requirement that they "route it all in the ARIN region?
Yes.
I am raising these questions precisely because I have been made aware of such a situation and have been asked if I can share light on what is supposed to happen in such cases.
Good to know - If you have them contact me or send me the ticket number, I can fairly quickly find out the disconnect. Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN