Randy, Gert and all, Randy Bush wrote:
So please: constructive criticism is welcome, but things like "all that you do is wrong, because APNIC is doing something!" (and no further reason or detail given) are just wasting our time.
excuse! where did i say that? please do not put stupid words into my keyboard, i do that well enough. i merely responded to what i considered an unwise statement which sets an incorrect atmosphere and could become a quoted precident set by a co-chair of this wg.
So if we send out a formal proposal to change RIPE things to RIPE lists, and nobody from the RIPE community objects - what's wrong with assuming consensus, then?
i still consider this unwise, and for the reasons i stated. and, in the face of such statements, i do not consider pointing out that we are making, or proposing to make, policy that affects the global internet a waste of time. if you feel it wastes yours, you have a delete key.
Your response here Randy was a bit harsh, as I am sure you are aware of and intended. However am I wrong in my understanding on these exchanges on this thread that a rift in differences of ideology has crept into the policy making process here unto engaged? As Randy well knows I do not often agree with his ideas or point of view. But in this instance I certainly do. It is at least unwise and I contend impossible for any WG to decide what an initial PA allocation size should be without the known and measured consensus of those directly and indirectly effected. Yet a global view and policy is prudent if not necessary. This said, it is also understandable that Gert's view from a RIPE Regional/local view in setting a initial PA allocation size may have some Regional/local advantages but could/would cause a disparency on a global business basis.. As such a need for a global policy is more attractive if it is crafted to meet or even slightly exceed a known current need and a far future need...
randy
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