Hello Per, That would mean that ALL Ip addresses could be taken to another provider/network and that it works. For example if a client has a /24 PA and they go to another network they need the option to take it with them. At least if you compare it to phone number portability in the Netherlands. This also means that if someone uses a /30 (a server with 2 or 3 SSL certificates for example) and they go to another network they can take the IP addresses (even with a /32). And other networks have to be required to route traffic to them or the old network has to route all traffic for that range to the new network. Currently this is not the case and without changing rules (even within the RIPE policy) it won't change probably. I would be happy to see something in the RIPE policy/rules that it works like the number portability for IP addresses, because RIPE NCC follows Dutch laws (and it is mentioned in new contracts for as far as I know) all network operators that have IP addresses from RIPE will also work like this. This means that filtering anything less than a /24 IPv4 is impossible (filtering by route objects or per IP is possible). It also creates "cheap" options for networks to get IP addresses from other networks if they want. Getting co location in another network and getting as much IP addresses as possible with that network and only using it for 1 or 3 months is enough to transfer the IP addresses. This is something that shouldn't be possible if you ask me. With kind regards, Mark Scholten -----Original Message----- From: address-policy-wg-admin@ripe.net [mailto:address-policy-wg-admin@ripe.net] On Behalf Of Per Heldal Sent: zaterdag 25 juli 2009 21:29 To: Nick Hilliard Cc: address-policy-wg@ripe.net Subject: Re: [address-policy-wg] Reopening discussion on RIPE Policy Proposal 2006-05 On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 17:12:45 +0100 Nick Hilliard <nick@inex.ie> wrote:
Provider independent addressing also puts the balance of negotiating power in the hands of the customer, rather than the provider. If they don't like the pricing, they can just go elsewhere and hey, it's really easy.
RIR policies is not the right tool to regulate ISP behaviour. Market regulators (national and international) should define the requirements and make it mandatory for ISPs to ease the transition from an address-block to another, prevent DNS hostage-taking etc. It's very similar to what's already done to provide number portability in mobile markets. //per