On Oct 21, 2009, at 8:36 PM, Max Tulyev wrote:
Marco,
I'm not comlaining for a certain hostmaster. I'm trying to adjust a policy when one man with their feeling or opinion can't drop down somebody's business.
The difference is very big: will you go through arbitration BEFORE or AFTER the blackdown of your network.
Well technically there are no ways for the NCC to stop you from using the IP addresses although they will be flagged as bogon in a lot of systems. Secondly, the document you point to (RIPE-475) has some clear guidelines in 4.2.1, which gives you 30 days to respond and resolve any issues. Now either your contact details are out of date and you missed an email, but you should still have a couple of weeks at least. In respect to your orginal comments, the full article here states:
"The RIPE NCC will de-register the independent Internet number resources in case of a fundamental breach of contract by the End User, supported by a Dutch court order; or Violation of Law by the End User, supported by a Dutch court order; or violation of RIPE Policy by the End User."
No where there is any mention it is a one man job to decide wether there is a violation, it says 'RIPE NCC' which is a legal entity, who in it's turn has a bunch of people on the payroll to check wether allocation and assignment policies are followed. Now obviously it can be the case that one IPRA on it's own decides the assignment is no longer valid accoording to RIPE-471 but my guess is that in case of any doubt things are double checked before the axe is raised and if they do so, you should have some time to respond, ask them to explain what happened and possibly talk to another hostmaster. If this all fails you have the arbitration procedure. As far as AP is concerned I don't see how we can help, you have a conflict with the NCC not with the community. This has no relation with assignment and allocation guidelines, they are all there and pretty clear. They are also very clear what happens if you don't confirm to the policy and which enitity makes that decission, it's the RIPE NCC a group of people who are in a seperate legal enitity and who are controlled by and finally paid for by the members. Your position to ask for and I quote "...OUR COMMUNITY COURT-LIKE STRUCTURE" is there, it's called RIPE-174. MarcoH