Dear Arash,

Thank you for your question.

At the moment, we see 98 members with 10 or more LIR accounts. These members have received a total of 1254 /24s under the current IPv4 waiting list policy.

I would like to note that these numbers are constantly changing. On the one hand, some members continue to open additional LIR accounts, while other members consolidate or close many LIR accounts as soon as the 24-month holding period expires. This also explains the slight difference from the previously published numbers. Several members that held 10 or more accounts when they received /24s have since reduced their number of LIRs.

I hope this answers your question.

Kind regards,
Marco Schmidt
Assistant Manager Registry Services
RIPE NCC

Hi Marco,

Could you please let me know how many organizations have 10 or more LIR accounts?

Thanks,

Arash Naderpour

On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 8:22 PM Marco Schmidt <mschmidt@ripe.net> wrote:

Dear colleagues,

In the Address Policy Working Group sessions at RIPE 83, I shared our
observations regarding the IPv4 waiting list policy. [1]

The intent of this policy was to provide newcomers with a minimal amount
of IPv4 space for as long as possible. However, about half of these
allocations went to members that received several /24 allocations via
multiple LIR accounts.

As there was interest in reviewing the policy at the RIPE Meeting, I
would like to provide more detail on the provision of IPv4 allocations
over the last two years and the current situation with the waiting list.

In the last 24 months, we provided 4,178 LIRs with a /24 allocation:
-    2,019 allocations (48%) went to members with a single LIR account
-    452 allocations (11%) went to members with 2-4 LIR accounts
-    298 allocations (7%) went to members with 5-9 LIR accounts and
-    1,409 allocations (34%) went to members with 10 or more LIR
accounts (up to 33 /24 allocations to a single member)

This trend towards allocations to multiple LIR accounts has accelerated
in the past six months. Between June and November 2021, only 24% of
allocations went to members with a single LIR account, while 54% went to
members with 10 or more accounts.

We see the same trend with the current waiting list. At the time of
writing, we can see 327 requests for a /24 allocation:
-    83 (25%) are from members with a single LIR account
-    42 (13%) are from members with 2-4 LIRs accounts
-    45 (14%) are from members with 5-9 LIR accounts
-    157 (48%) are from members with 10 or more LIR accounts

Consequently, there is a significantly longer wait time for members with
a single LIR account.

Looking at the current market prices for IPv4 in comparison to our
membership fees, even a wait time of several months is acceptable for
organisations that plan to transfer their allocation after the end of
the holding period. Conversely, the long wait time will create
uncertainty for real newcomers, especially if they can’t rely on
IPv6-only networks.

I hope the WG finds this information useful for further discussion. If
there is consensus to change the current situation, there are several
approaches available – including a review of the waiting list policy and
changing ‘per LIR’ to something else. Other approaches, such as a
different charging scheme or changing the concept of multiple LIRs would
need to be approved by the RIPE NCC membership.

Kind regards,
Marco Schmidt
Assistant Manager Registry Services
RIPE NCC

[1] https://ripe83.ripe.net/archives/video/642/


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