* Daniel Roesen <dr@cluenet.de> [2014-02-25 23:39]:
For normal end users, the policy requires "a contract with a sponsoring LIR", and I think it should be fully sufficient to leave questions of identity validation for natural persons to the LIR in question. Like "I know this person personally, I'm fine with doing business with him", that should be good enough for the NCC as well - after all, the whole idea of the "sponsoring LIR" construct is that the NCC has a trusted intermediate, and the end user does not have to deal with the NCC.
Strong ACK. Unfortunately, as far as I can see, NCC doesn't trust the RIPE membership to vouch for their customer's identities. And as far as I'm being told, there are a good number of examples that actually fuel NCC's distrust. Nevertheless, I think the current Due Dilligence process is far overreaching.
I agree with the NCC in regards of "not trusting an LIR". Becoming an LIR is easy (money wise and procedure wise) and does not imply a high value of trust for the LIR. We don't have this problem at the moment as all of our customers are companies and there is no problem with sending the company registration papers. I'm not sure if there is a good solution for all the countrys the NCC is providing service for. Still at least for Germany the NCC should find another way instead of requiring people to break the law. Regards Sebastian -- GPG Key: 0x93A0B9CE (F4F6 B1A3 866B 26E9 450A 9D82 58A2 D94A 93A0 B9CE) 'Are you Death?' ... IT'S THE SCYTHE, ISN'T IT? PEOPLE ALWAYS NOTICE THE SCYTHE. -- Terry Pratchett, The Fifth Elephant