Sergey,

I see. You mentioned 37 transfers in 2014, that equal to /17,/20,/22.
> Is this number 
significant enough to develop the policy change?

I think, yes. While amont of such transfers from last /8 will increase anyway.
Sergey, what is your opinion?

--
Aleksei


12.08.2014 03:23 - Sergey Myasoedov написал(а):

> Yes. I afaraid that last /8 will be used for creating new LIRs only reselling IPv4-adresses. As a result last /8 will be run out very fast.

I see. You mentioned 37 transfers in 2014, that equal to /17,/20,/22. Is this
number significant enough to develop the policy change?


--
Sergey


On 11 Aug 2014, at 21:49, LeaderTelecom Ltd. <info@leadertelecom.ru> wrote:

> Dear Sergey,
>
> > I am able to read the written text :) but I don’t see the reason for your proposal.
> Ok. I thinked that I wrote not very clear.
>
> > Or maybe you would like to limit the practice when companies being created for requesting allocation only?
>
> Yes. I afaraid that last /8 will be used for creating new LIRs only reselling IPv4-adresses. As a result last /8 will be run out very fast.
>
> If the last /8 starts from digth "185" then we can see thansfers from companies:
> 23.01.2013 "TOP NET" PJSC
> 15.05.2013 CallWithMe
> 01.07.2013 VERIXI SPRL
> 04.07.2013 PJSC "Fars Telecommunication Company"
> 09.07.2013 Aria Web Development LLC
> 16.10.2013 Pars Fonoun Ofogh Information Technology and Communications Company LTD
> 17.12.2013 Julian Alberto Gomez Hernandez trading as "Adjenet Networks"
> 02.01.2014 Sara Rebollido Sueiro
> 24.01.2014 NOV'IT SAS
> 27.01.2014 Flex Networks Services B.V.
> 27.01.2014 IPhouse B.V.
> 27.01.2014 NLTM B.V.
> 04.02.2014 Dark Group Ltd
> 04.02.2014 Froehlich-Reisen GmbH
> 05.02.2014 Julian Alberto Gomez Hernandez trading as "Adjenet Networks"
> 13.02.2014 Julian Alberto Gomez Hernandez trading as "Adjenet Networks"
> 13.02.2014 Julian Alberto Gomez Hernandez trading as "Adjenet Networks"
> 13.02.2014 Skylogic Polska Sp. Z.o.o.
> 28.02.2014 Netfactor Iletisim Hizmetleri Limited Sirketi
> 13.03.2014 LLC Arksys
> 21.03.2014 Xite Group BV
> 25.03.2014 ANDRZEJ BACINSKI trading as PUMPS & SYSTEMS
> 10.04.2014 LEVEL IP ITALIA S.R.L.
> 29.04.2014 STIS Engineering co. LTD
> 06.05.2014 Santrex Internet Services Ltd.
> 08.05.2014 AnDilo AB
> 13.05.2014 GLASHELDER BV
> 15.05.2014 Reseau Stella SARL
> 16.05.2014 Connect-it Telecom BV
> 16.05.2014 Mobile Communications (MOCO) BV
> 02.06.2014 A.M. Bayhan is trading as "DediColo Services"
> 02.06.2014 DediColo B.V.
> 04.06.2014 CLOUDGLOBAL FRANCE SAS
> 06.06.2014 Optimal IT Development SRL
> 20.06.2014 BIKS+ Ltd
> 20.06.2014 CJSC ADVANTAGE TELECOM
> 26.06.2014 International Communication company Persian Sheetsan Ltd.
> 10.07.2014 TELECABLE LTD
> 23.07.2014 "StoTelecom" Ltd.
> 23.07.2014 Michiel Muhlenbaumer
> 29.07.2014 EMY AUTO BEST SRL
> 30.07.2014 Host Sailor Ltd.
> 31.07.2014 Van Veen Beheer BV
> 04.08.2014 WBS Consulting Czech Republic s.r.o.
>  
>  
> --
> Aleksei
>
> 11.08.2014 21:58 - Sergey Myasoedov написал(а):
> Aleksei,
> I am able to read the written text :) but I don’t see the reason for your
> proposal.
>
> Do you consider unfair single (at least in first 2 years) allocation transfer?
> Why?
>
> Or maybe you would like to limit the practice when companies being created for
> requesting allocation only?
>
>
> --
> Sergey
>
> On 11 Aug 2014, at 18:09, LeaderTelecom Ltd. <info@leadertelecom.ru> wrote:
>
> > Sergey,
> >
> > > what is the point of your proposal?
> > I propose don't allow transfers from last /8 during first 2 years afer date of allocation from RIPE NCC pool.
> >
> > Example: some LIR get IPv4 from last /8 at 11.08.2014. In period 11.08.2014 - 10.08.2016 transfer of it's IPs are not allowed. Since 11.08.2016 this LIR can transfer IPv4 to any LIR.
> >  
> > --
> > Aleksei
> >  
> > LL> Dear Sirs,
> >
> > LL> I suggest to allow transfer from the last /8 only in 2 years after date of
> > LL> allocation from RIPE NCC. I see in the transfer list that this is already
> > LL> common practice to transfer /22 from the last /8.
> > LL> Any Pros/cons?
> >
> > LL> --
> > LL> Aleksei Ivanov
> > LL> LeaderTelecom
> >
> >
> >  
>
>