I fully support this (mail from opteamax gmbh) point of view! and, of course the policy proposal.
In my opinion it's a bad thing that RIPE did not have strong (backed up with strong detection of unused pools) policies even from the start.
Thinks are very complicated and i get that, problems can't be foreseen in future and it's easy to judge now how thins could be made easier/simpler but it's not late to start somewhere.
Another opinion/impression that i have (and this does not affect only RIPE region) is that big providers and content providers do not want ipv6 to be implemented because behind thoese guys are big interests of making profits over the ipv4 exaution and this happened as you saw in Romania (Jump Management) too.

On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 10:57 PM, Opteamax GmbH <ripe@opteamax.de> wrote:

On 09.06.2015 19:54, Ciprian Nica wrote:>
> Come up with a proposal that will really stop this kind of activity and
> I'll fully support it.

The only proposal which would actually fully stop this is actually
refusing Prefix-Transfers completely and enforce returning to the RIPE-Pool.

The only chance for taking-over Resources then should be a real "merge"
of two LIR including the demand of their individual customers justifying
why it is important to not being renumbered ... That kind of proposal
would actually remove a lot of "profit-making" for brokers etc. on one
hand, but on the other hand it offers the opportunity to the ones really
needing IPv4-Space to get their need fullfilled by RIPE... at least if
that kind of proposal would also enforce withdrawing IP-space which is
not being really used for a while.

Actually if that'd be done world-wide with all address-space not
publicly routed - and therefore easily to replace with 10.0.0.0/8 - we'd
have sufficient IPv4 for the next decades ... Just a brief look into the
routing-table on my router and I see 10 complete /8 (so called public
IP-Space-prefixes) which are completely not announced and another 4 /8
with less then one /21 announced.... and I do not want to know how many
of the large /8 to /14 announcements are actually routed into a
blackholes, as there are no real users on large parts of those nets.

... and we discuss about /22 nets being "hoarded"?

Sorry, could not resist to point on that.

Still I support the proposal because it reduces the win for abusers and
raises the risk that the now "hoarded" addresses are less worth when
they are sellable. Hey, it is on us to make IPv4-Prefixes worthless.

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