Dear Nike,
This means you have maybe 25000-30000 organisations around the ripe ncc service region who are going to see their fees increase from (wholesale) €50 to €650 per annum.
I think that it is logical. -- Alexey Ivanov LeaderTelecom 01.10.2013 00:39 - Nick Hilliard написал(а): On 30/09/2013 18:00, Tore Anderson wrote:
All existing PI holders would become simultaneously both the LIR *and* the End User in the above chain, so I'm not sure where this confusion would come from?
So how could you convince the existing ipv6 PI holders that the cost increase from €50/year to LIR membership fees would be worth it? IOW, there are two problems here: an addressing flavour issue, which relates to the RIPE community, and a billing issue which is the responsibility of the RIPE NCC. For sure, you couldn't do this to just the ipv6 PI assignments - it would have to be to all address space, but then you get into the thorny issue of billing. Let me pull out a paper napkin for a moment and hand-wave the possibility that all PI holders became LIRs and all LIRs paid the same fees. The 2014 budget is €21.7m (practical). All LIRs pay the same (ncc member policy). There are about 9500 members and 33000 assigned pi resources (reality), probably with lots of overlap (reasonable speculation). Let's pluck a figure out of thin air and say that there are 35000 distinct end users + lirs (wild speculation), who need to pay an equal share of a budget of €21.7 million. This means you have maybe 25000-30000 organisations around the ripe ncc service region who are going to see their fees increase from (wholesale) €50 to €650 per annum. This won't fly. We need to be practical about a workable policy proposal here. Whether we like it or not, there is a strong history of cost differentiation in terms of how ip addresess are handled, and I don't see a practical way of levelling the field within the constraints of what's workable and what we'd ultimately like. Nick