Dear Sander,
> But exactly the same can happen with sub-allocated address space. Why would
> transfers be any different? At least with a transfer you can show that the
> responsibility for those addresses was (temporarily) transferred to another
> organisation. With sub-allocated addresses the responsibility remains with the
> original holder, who would then probably even have a bigger problem explaining
> everything and getting off the spam lists.
> This seems to be an argument *in favour* of using temporary transfers...
It is very difficult discuss with black lists delisting. Some of black lists can ignore requests. 
It is better prevent blacklisting.
If I understund well policy of transfers - minimal term of transfer - 2 years. It is too long too. I understund that it is normail for EU, but for Russia most of agreement usualy for 1 year.
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Kind regards,
Alexey Ivanov
LeaderTelecom B.V. Team
URL: http://www.LeaderTelecom.nl/ - IP- addresses
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14.10.2012 16:23 - Sander Steffann написал(а):
	Hi,
	
	> > > Permanenent transfer cost [...]
	>
	> > Please remember that the current transfer policy explicitly states "This
	> > re-allocation may be on either a permanent or non-permanent basis." so you can
	> > already use the current transfer policy for temporary transfers.
	>
	>  After temporary transfer you can receive back IPs which listed in Spamhouse. I don't know any company which will temporary transfers IPs.
	
	But exactly the same can happen with sub-allocated address space. Why would
	transfers be any different? At least with a transfer you can show that the
	responsibility for those addresses was (temporarily) transferred to another
	organisation. With sub-allocated addresses the responsibility remains with the
	original holder, who would then probably even have a bigger problem explaining
	everything and getting off the spam lists.
	
	This seems to be an argument *in favour* of using temporary transfers...
	Sander