Once more ... this is not the point. I mention it as one possible choice (change fees or not, change contract or not). Even if this is not up to the WG, is something that we need to explore as well. However, we can change the policy so that both PA and PI are "allocations" and there is no artificial differences in between and consequently, restrictions which are difficult to define "border lines". Regards, Jordi -----Mensaje original----- De: address-policy-wg <address-policy-wg-bounces@ripe.net> en nombre de Peter Hessler <phessler@theapt.org> Fecha: sábado, 19 de mayo de 2018, 18:17 Para: <address-policy-wg@ripe.net> Asunto: Re: [address-policy-wg] proposal to remove IPv6 PI On 2018 May 19 (Sat) at 18:11:39 +0200 (+0200), Kai 'wusel' Siering wrote: :Am 19.05.2018 um 12:07 schrieb JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via address-policy-wg: :> My proposal is NOT to stop IPv6 PI, : :Alternative facts? The title says "to remove IPv6 PI". : :> As I explained already, the intent is not to increase the end-user fees so they pay the same as an LIR, but to have some "proportionality" and to pay for the "real" NCC cost (which maybe still 50 euros, or maybe not, I don't know that, it is something that the NCC should calculate). : :I've read multiple times that costs are out of scope for the APWG. So without a change towards a per resource fee structure – which is out of scope here –, the proposed change forces PIv6 holders to either become a LIR at 1400,-- EUR/year or abandon their assignment. : :Regards, :-kai : : If my choices are to pay 28x my current fee or abandon using IPv6, I will abandon using IPv6. Quite simply, I can't afford it and **it isn't worth it**. Since I would like to use IPv6, I am very strongly against this proposal. -- Law of the Perversity of Nature: You cannot successfully determine beforehand which side of the bread to butter. ********************************************** IPv4 is over Are you ready for the new Internet ? http://www.consulintel.es The IPv6 Company This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for the exclusive use of the individual(s) named above and further non-explicilty authorized disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited and will be considered a criminal offense. If you are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited, will be considered a criminal offense, so you must reply to the original sender to inform about this communication and delete it.