On 26/09/2017 17:56, Erik Bais wrote:
Now everyone will have to figure out if that's enough or not. :)
That is clearly not enough... you are asking the obvious here Jan... ;-)
Well, yes and no. We are talking about new entrants here, companies that are fresh new on the market and usually this folx does not build a huuuge network from the very start. If we forget the regulatory restriction possibility in the future, a local residential network of 10k to 20k users is still not too bad for a starter and maybe that might even encourage the increased competition to big-old-boys that will not be able to get more IPv4 resources at all ;) Cheers, Jan
Erik
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: address-policy-wg [mailto:address-policy-wg-bounces@ripe.net] Namens Jan Zorz - Go6 Verzonden: dinsdag 26 september 2017 10:27 Aan: address-policy-wg@ripe.net Onderwerp: Re: [address-policy-wg] 2017-03, New Policy Proposal (Reducing Initial IPv4 Allocation, aiming to preserve a minimum of IPv4 space)
On 24/09/2017 00:38, Sander Steffann wrote:
...or change the /22 to /24 and keep giving newcomers a tiny bit of addresses for a while longer (what is currently being proposed).
Hey,
A quick math what a /24 can give you if you use if for translation/transition purposes only (NAT64 or A+P like MAP-E/T)
If you connect to your upstream with *their* IP addresses and not break your /24 into smaller bits and connect your NAT64 or A+P PRR box directly to that BGP router, use first usable address as a gateway, second address as an interface address for your translation/transition box, then you are left with 252 usable addresses for your purpose. That means 65.535 ports per address, giving you 16.514.820 usable ports. Usually sane people predicts between 700 and 1000 ports per user, and that gives you between 16.514 and 23.592 possible users that you can serve at the same time and connect them to legacy IPv4 world.
Now everyone will have to figure out if that's enough or not. :)
Cheers, Jan