With the understanding that this is a global policy that has to be approved in the same terms by all regions and have after that a public consultation period at ICANN level before final approval by the ICANN Board, I would strongly support the option 1. Given the fact that a significant part of legacy resources are in the ARIN region, the option where we could allow the RIPE-NCC to return address space to IANA with re-assignment being only be possible to other RIRS having adopted the mandatory address space return process could very well be accepted by ARIN, but doesn't address the issue in a fair way. In my view all RIRs should participate the same way in the process or none of them, and if one RIR community do not accept to be part of of process it should be clearly publicised to the global community and stakeholders. I also suggest that this issue which is a global issue is addressed publicly during the next ICANN meeting in Brussels in an open information Session of the ASO. Alain Alain Bidron FT/PRESIDENCE/NCPI/NAD/EAS/NAN Head of Naming Addressing Numbering Unit tel. + 33 1 57 36 17 24 mob. + 33 6 87 65 90 94 alain.bidron@orange-ftgroup.com -----Message d'origine----- De : address-policy-wg-admin@ripe.net [mailto:address-policy-wg-admin@ripe.net] De la part de Nigel Titley Envoyé : mardi 13 avril 2010 15:31 À : address-policy-wg@ripe.net Objet : [address-policy-wg] Policy proposal 2009-01 Folks, As one of the authors of this proposal I'd like to get some sort of consensus together in the RIPE region so that we can move forward. All other regions have reached consensus and we are the last to do so. All other regions with the exception of Arin have adopted the policy in it's original form. Arin has modified the policy to remove the mandatory return of recovered address space to IANA, which effectively makes it a different policy. 2009-01 is a global policy which means that the same policy has to be agreed in all regions, so to all practical purposes it is doomed already. However, we still need to decide what to do with it in the RIPE region. To my mind there are four possibilities: 1. We adopt it in its original form thus demonstrating solidarity with the other regions, apart from Arin. 2. We adopt the Arin form of the proposal, thus demonstrating solidarity with Arin, but with no one else 3. We reject the proposal outright, thus demonstrating that we can't make up our minds or that we think it will never work, or something... 4. We ask the regional authors (in this case myself and Axel) to withdraw the proposal in this region. Some background may be helpful here. No one seriously expected that any address space would actually be returned as a result of this policy. It was intended as a statement that should IPv4 address space become available then it would be used for the greater good of all the registries rather than those who had already had the majority of the space already. I realise that this was a rather pious hope, but we felt that it was worth making a statement about. The Arin region's position has made it impossible to make this statement globally, but we still have the opportunity to make it here. I would like to solicit the opinions of this working group in order to try and put the matter to bed once and for all. I realise I'm making rather contentious statements here, but I'm hoping to provoke a bit of discussion. Please can the working group indicate how they would like to move this forward. All the best Nigel ********************************* This message and any attachments (the "message") are confidential and intended solely for the addressees. Any unauthorised use or dissemination is prohibited. Messages are susceptible to alteration. France Telecom Group shall not be liable for the message if altered, changed or falsified. If you are not the intended addressee of this message, please cancel it immediately and inform the sender. ********************************