Hello everybody,
I
read all messages in this regard, and I think conversation is going off
the
road.
One individual, or one LIR may talk about their own opinion regarding
the
proposal.
Please do not extent the talk to all LIRs from Iran or any
other region.
and I don't think that it is wise to stamp a technical proposal
with
political issues.
Are we talking about IPV4 and IPV6, or we are
talking about how Iran is
managing it's address space?
Kind
Regards,
Saeed.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim
Reid
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 5:43 PM
To: Shahin Gharghi
Cc:
address-policy-wg@ripe.net
Subject: Re: [address-policy-wg] IP addresses for
Iran
On 21 Oct 2015, at 14:49, Shahin Gharghi <shahin@gharghi.ir> wrote:
>>
What's stoping Iranian LIRs getting an IPv6 allocation from the
NCC?
>
> Iran has a lot of IPv6 allocation but can't announce
any.
So the probem isn't getting or using address space, it's routing
that space.
This WG (and RIPE more generally) is not in a position to decide
or enforce
the peering and transit policies used by ISPs ad
IXPs.
>> Even they can't buy IP from outside of country because of
sanctions.
>
> Solving the sanctions problem isn't within RIPE's
control.
>
> RIPE NCC can ease the process.I'm not sure it can. It
would be up to the RIPE community to reach consensus
> on a policy
proposal which somehow eases Iran's sanctions problems. I
> doubt a
policy could have that effect. If you have some ideas about how
> this
could be done, please share them or submit a policy proposal which
> does
that.
> People mentioned Iran as instance, so I explained the
situation.
> Community has to agree that Iran and similar countries are a
part of
> community and they can see the proposals from their own view.
You are
> talking about making IPv4 available in future, and one of the
biggest user
> of IPv4 in future is Iran or similar countries, so it
seems we have to
> look at them.
Of course Iran is part of the
community. However when RIPE develops address
policies here, we are supposed
to consider the interests of the community as
a whole and do the best (or
least worst) for everyone. Current policy allows
Iranian LIRs to get the
same sized IPv4 allocations as everyone else. IMO
they're no better off or
worse off than any other LIRs in the RIPE service
region who need to get v4
space from the NCC.