Martin wrote:
Well, we had that Youtube incedent and there where a few more, so there are people demanding it. I am well aware that there is a demand by powerful forces for RPKI or something similar. I do not think the youtube incident and a handful other motivate such a drastic system.
I don't see that further. However, engineering tends to overengineer things to not only solve the imminent problems, but also problems that could occure somewhen in the future. I don't see RPKI designed as an evil censorship tool. I'd bet it isn't even bad engineered (eventhough i haven't had a deeper look on the design yet). The only point is that its implementation has implications that from my point of view hasn't been taken into account properly until now.
I don't think that denying that fact and just walk away would get us any further here again. I welcome research and debate of this and alternative solutions to achieve the goal of avoiding the Youtube incident or making its impact less hurtful.
Fine. Thats exactly what I think should be done. Take the concerns mentioned seriously and put further work to resolve the problems.
In contrary, if people seriously start to demand it and we are going to say "well, we will not do something here" then they will start doing that in some other forum, which i would presume is much worse as we here can discuss and raise our concerns. Hopefully, the respective WG's at RIPE will remain in charge of the PDP process of their respective areas?
If the WG is just sticking their head into the sand and just says 'no, we're against it' without supplying any strategy to archive a solution everybody can live with, this may well change. And that was exactly my point here. Work must be going towards that solution and not just discarding the current one. I hope that clarifys things. Immo