On 19 mrt 2008, at 15:58, Filiz Yilmaz wrote:
If this proposal reaches consensus, RIPE NCC will conduct a one-time operation to allocate an IPv6 block to every LIR that does not have any existing IPv6 allocation.
Although I don't see much harm in the proposal from a technical perspective, I don't expect this to have much impact in de the actual deployment. And it might even be a waist of address space, because by the time IPv6 has finally made it to the edge some of those LIR's probably don't even exist anymore, maybe causing some swamp leftovers from experiments. Anybody who want's to run IPv6 can do so by requesting an assignment, it's not that hard and we might even get some documentation which if anonymized and aggregated could give some valuable insights on where IPv6 really stands. The whole idea seems more of a political statement "it's not are fault IPv4 has ran out" as it will be a solution to what we really try to solve, the fact that IPv6 isn't rolling the way we hoped it would do. I can tell from experience this isn't the lack of address space or the procedure to get it assigned and/or routed. v6 ain't rolling because there still are some gaps on the edge, it's hard to find the 40 USD dsl-modem which runs IPv6 and does it in a way it will work on multiple aggregation platforms so you as an ISP won't get vendorlocked and the customer who wants/needs another CPE can simply buy one around the corner, knowing for sure it will work. That's where the pressure needs to be and we should focus on, RFC 4241 is a nice starting point for it. If you want to market IPv6, print some brochure and make it a nice powerpoint presentation, if you want politics and show you really care, let's show the industry can act as a whole and this week all call our favorite salesrep from our favorite vendor and ask them for the stuff _you_ need to get _your_ part working. Groet, MarcoH