On Fri, 25 Jun 2004, Jon Lawrence wrote:
On Friday 25 June 2004 08:59, Gert Doering wrote:
But I think the whole point of the discussion is that the rule is pretty pointless.
I agree. Saying that we *plan* to make IPv6 available to 200 end sites within 2 years is pretty easy. The fact that we currently have no where near 200 end sites could be viewed as irrelevant as far as planniing is concerned. This in my view makes a joke of the rule. Even a brand new LIR with only half a dozen end sites at present could easily present a case for *planning* to have 200 over the next 2 years.
It was suggested that if you don't/can't reach the 200 rule then you should take address space from your upstream. How many datacenters are going to be willing to do that. We'd like to be able to start offering IPv6 services for our datacenter, there's no way we're going to take a single upstream. A datacenter needs to be multihomed with different providers (at least in my opinion). I suppose I could assign a /48 to each customer in the datacenter (to reach the magic 200) but most customers have only *one* server, so that would be a big waste of space. Instead I'd simply assign a single /48 to the datacenter and that would be aggregated by us on our multiple links, but by doing this we'd never reach 200 end sites.
I personally think we should get rid of the 200 rule completely. Saying something along the lines of: An LIR should provide IPv6 services (to end user sites) and advertise an aggregated route within 12 months of receiving the allocation.
Regards, Jon
1. repeating myself... "200 rule"... IMHO to dropped as soon as possible. 2. please drop the "conservation" thinggy... ~"big waste of space" one server means one LAN = /64, just like a p2p connection is also a LAN = /64. someone might disagree on this... ;-) if you have more than one LAN, that means a /48. if you have a customer with 2 servers, if they are on the same LAN, just put a /64 on top of the table. if he wants them separated (2 vlans), give him a /48 and simply route his 2 /64s. ./Carlos -------------- http://www.ip6.fccn.pt/nativeRCTS2.html Wide Area Network (WAN) Workgroup, CMF8-RIPE, CF596-ARIN FCCN - Fundacao para a Computacao Cientifica Nacional http://www.fccn.pt "Internet is just routes (140068/465), naming (millions) and... people!"