Hi, Domestic contracts (LIR-User) is much simple (and in some not so rare cases - is only way) than international (RIPE NCC-User) one. RIPE NCC did a lot of things in Russia to make special Russian contract, and it really works now here. But there is still a lot of problems to sign and legally use of this contract because of local laws. In Ukraine situation is worse: at first, because of laws are more ugly, at second, there is no local Ukrainian contract. In fact, ALL of Ukrainian RIPE NCC members signed standard (unchanged) service agreement acts ILLEGALLY at Ukrainian side. Unable to pay money to RIPE NCC legally is most harmless consequence of it. A month ago Ukrainian local work group is started to make Ukrainian local contract like in Russia. But I didn't hear anything about this for other ex-USSR countries with similar laws: Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Georgia and so on. A week ago I requested from RIPE NCC Russian agreement for our registry based in Ukraine. It fits here as mostly similar legal demand and Russian language documents are still often accepted in Ukraine. But I got reply "wait for special Ukrainian agreement" from RIPE NCC. Gert Doering wrote:
Hi,
On Sat, Apr 21, 2007 at 02:14:23AM +0200, Sascha Lenz wrote:
With the actual situation in Russia - probably otherwhere too, it might make more sense to look into another concept, probably somehow like DENIC (.de ccTLD) handles it for Domains here (someone correct me if i talk rubbish here):
I think this is a good approach, and should work for all countries where LIRs can find a way to make a contract with the RIPE NCC.
Max, is that something that would work in your environment? I don't know the legal obstacles in Russia, Ukraine, etc. well enough to be sure it would work out.
Gert Doering -- APWG chair
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