Hi, On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 09:41:55PM +0200, Daniel Roesen wrote:
Assuming LIRs are generally businesses (first order approximation), LIRs seem to be totally fine to pay for hardware to support all their competitors DFZ deaggregation pollution.
I'm missing any call to arms to get THAT in check.
Different orders of magnitude. How many "ISP-like" operations can you have, and how many "just end users" can you have? So what we have tried to work for is a reasonable(*) balance - that end users *can* have independent address space, but not all end users would actually *want* it. To stress the obvious: not all "end users" are identical - there's "medium sized businesses" and "my mom's computer at home". I don't think my mom should have PI addresses being globally visible in the DFZ... (and as far as I remember, Daniel's employer isn't offering to route PI addresses to their customer base either). Just something to keep in mind. Gert Doering APWG chair (*) reasonable = some think it's too loose, others think it's too strict, but generally mostly workable and nothing has exploded yet -- did you enable IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (89) 32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279