Hi Gert:

I am asking a very specific question to an very specific service example here, the only way to be more specific would be naming people. 

If you read my last Email, I have tried my best to ask that very specific question.

So the bottom line is, what does *need* mean? Does it means the whole package of justification material(so including everything submitted during the evaluation process for the assignment, including but not limit to the upstream's contract, location of the server, etc), or does it means the *service* was provided, LIR can free justify it's own infrastructure(e.g. move server from DC A to DC B to improve speed) to provide same service to the same customer group?

Because if *need* includes whole package of justification material, then by definition, change any thing in that package(for example, location of the server, upstream provider), would request NCC approval for the assignment again therefore effectively requested NCC to manage all the infrastructure adjustment by it's members(assure the LIR do not have assignment window), because the need has changed.

Sorry about my English that I can not put it in one sentence, and needed example to help explain, but my question are very very specific and not for the beer time.

On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 8:51 PM, Gert Doering <gert@space.net> wrote:
Hi,

On Thu, Dec 03, 2015 at 08:33:22PM +0100, Lu Heng wrote:
> Yes, for old folks here, things seems obvious,  but I believe we still need
> to have next generation people here to participate the discussion, if we do
> not understand where we ware coming from, how we understand the way to
> develop future?

I do not think that this is particularily relevant here.  The status
"we have plenty of IPv4 but need to ensure fairness between different
ISPs' customers" will not come back - and IPv6 is significantly different
that not much can be learned by IPv4's restrictive policies.

If you have a specific question, you're welcome to ask.

But generic "what if... and can you remember the good old times?" stuff
are just noise to most of the participants of the list - so, discuss this
at a beer with others who are interested, but not here.

> As I have explained in my last Email, understanding of some key element in
> our past policy will help us going future with our current policy
> development.

Not in this vagueness.

Gert Doering
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