On Thu, 8 Jun 2006, Tim Streater wrote:
At 20:54 07/06/2006, David Conrad wrote:
Jordi,
Unlurking from the sidelines and speaking only for myself, some comments on your proposal:
It is clear that there are small Internet Service providers (ISPs) that do not currently have 200 customers, consequently is not feasible for them to make "at least 200 /48" assignments in two years. It is, however, unfair that these ISPs have no access to IPv6 address space.
I'm confused. According to RIPE-267 (section 5.1.1), the existing policy doesn't require requesters to have 200 customers. All that it requires is that an LIR not be an end site, provide IPv6 connectivity, and "have a plan for making at least 200 /48 assignments to other organisations within two years."
Note it says "a plan". An organization incapable of coming up with _a plan_ to allocate 200 /48s has more significant problems than not having IPv6 space.
We manage transit networks. We need v6 address space to address our backbones. We expect the allocation to be routed so we could outsource the management of the backbone to some distant entity. All our customers are LIRs and therefore need no space from us. We therefore, in reality, expect to allocate no addresses to no customers in the next two years.
I could put together a plan contradicting this fact, but it would be a lie. Why should I lie to the RIR in order to get obtain space?
This concept of "transit networks" should be part of the policy! Tim is not the only one i saw complaints from about this...
-- Tim
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