Hi, Is there a problem if Afrinic come back on this /32 allocation ? If yes, tell Jeroen (and all the community), they will understand ; if realy not and if there is no other reason (like numerical justify values ) let's go in this way. It's just a point of vue. Regards Jeroen Massar wrote:
Adiel A. Akplogan wrote: [..]
Wow, so you make a new 'company' in 911 land and say "I am going to allocate a single /48" and you get a FULL /32 even when you will never ever ever use it or even are going to think about using it?
I think you have missed the point a) which says "be an LIR". So you must already be an LIR (and go through the LIR setup process) to get IPv6 allocation from AfrINIC.
Is it that difficult to become an LIR then? Last time I checked it simply means having a registered company in a country and paying the bills. For the rest, nothing policy wise will stop one from becoming one.
The first "organization" which is using this to waste space seems to be:
inet6num: 2001:42d0::/32 netname: AfriNIC-IPv6-1 descr: AfriNIC descr: RIR country: MU
Gee, the RIR itself. How many people are using the AFRINIC network? 10-50? Are they really *ever* going to need more than a /48? Are they ever going to have a need for 65536 of those /48's?
You can not take AfriNIC own allocation case to illustrate your assertion here
Why not? It is clearly the first block that has been using this policy.
Some other people mentioned that you might have been using the "Critical Infrastructure" policy, but clearly you are not, otherwise you would have mentioned that, but you did not.
Also even that policy mentions that a /32 is the maximum size and not the default, meaning that one still has to justify that address space.
We have allocated that bloc to our own Infrastructure (which has three locations to be connected together) so each with its own /48. Further to that we have other IPv6 Internal projects which will probably require several /48.
So you allocate 65536 /48's because you have *three* offices and maybe some "big projects". I don't see why those big projects require the need for individual /48's. Reminder: a /48 is 65536 /64's and in total that contains several millions of /128's to be used for addressing.
Under that premise, is every website hosted by a virtual hoster also getting their own /48? That will be a huge waste of address space when you justify it like that. I sincerely hope that that is not the justification that AfriNIC is using, as when that is the case it is really disproportionate to the rest of the world.
As RIR I think we are in the position to evaluate our own need before making an allocation and if it was made be sure that is after careful evaluation.
I wonder how 'careful' this evaluation was and I am seriously doubting any further 'evaluation'. Seeing that three (small) offices and some unspecified projects
A /45 (8 /48's) would have been correctly justified by the above, but a /32 (65536 /48's) is really not.
That you want a globally routable prefix and your own chunk of space is fine, but don't waste (not waist) the address space.
Really this is just a waste of address space. Yes there is "enough", but being> sooo obviously wasteful just to be able to have a nice slot in the routing tables is a bit over done.
I don't see the waist.
You don't see a waste of 65500 /48's which can otherwise really be used by the new PI policy which your membership has voted on and setup? wow.
Why does that PI policy exist when one is going to give out /32's for small sites anyway? And yes AfriNIC is a small site. Now if you had more than 200 offices and thousands of employees or what about real customers who are people and users themselves, then a /32 might be justified, but in this case, far from.
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RIR's should be giving out address space based on "need" and that need must justified, giving out /32's as "those fit in the routing slots" is a really really bad idea.
That is what we do. You can not have such affirmation based on a single case.
Thus you admit that the justification was wrong, but just because you made a mistake once (which you can still easily turn back btw as the prefix is not in use yet, or just chunk it down to a /45) it can't really be called a mistake?
In short: if you want a nice /32 without issues: setup a small shop in Africa and presto!
You won't get it like that.
Clearly you can, otherwise that /32 you have now would not be there would it not?
Greets, Jeroen
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