Dear Leo, Would you please say this to Athina Fragkouli. Or she can? On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 1:59 PM Leo Vegoda <leo@vegoda.org> wrote:
Hi Everyone,
Discussion of the charging scheme and how it is applied falls outside the scope of the Address Policy WG.
The RIPE NCC's membership has a discussion list. That is the right place to discuss this topic:
https://www.ripe.net/participate/member-support/membership-mailing-lists/sub...
It is worth noting that there are active discussions of charging related topics on that list.
Kind regards,
Leo Vegoda for the Address Policy WG Co-Chairs
On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 2:29 AM Stary Bezpiek <stary.bezpiecznik@gmail.com> wrote:
W dniu 19.03.2022 o 06:59, Taras Heichenko pisze:
Peace.
I am glad to see that RIPE NCC is legally clean. There are questions about humanism but of course this is not a cope of work of RIPE NCC.
In my opinion - it is not. RIPE NCC claims to operate in accordance with its own policies, that are created by the community.
Meanwhile, we have a selective treatment of Members in terms of payments without: a) RIPE NCC resolutions b) without annexes to contracts with users. c) policy change Neither the Agreement nor the existing policies allow for discretionary behavior like "this user may not pay, and others must" without formal authorization.
Of course Ukraine as an attacked country can and must be treated with any aid, including exemption from payments, when possible. But it has to be passed by a resolution of the RIPE NCC ordinance. The resolution may contain one sentence: "We do not issue invoices to Ukrainian members until the end of the war." Vote: who is in favor? All? The End.
On the other end is Russia, as a country that has been subject to sanctions. It should not be of our interest, that they cannot pay. In result, recognizing that Russia users may not pay, because they have "banking difficulties" means, that no one from Russia will pay. Without any consequences. Although they probably can pay. Letting go at this point is very unfair to other Members.
I also have a difficult in payment because the Euro exchange rate is very high. Does it interest someone?
-- Stary Bezpiecznik
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