Hi Pascal, Hi all...
Dear WG,
As a service provider specialized in CATV, we will soon face a competition problem. CATV operators, often, do not operate their IP business, they take these services from a specialized service provider (like us) and therefore the end-users get IP(v4) addresses from that provider.
[...] basically i share most of the concerns other people already mentioned, so i try to make it brief: I don't really see this happening, the problem is basically self-made (design failure) and not at all only a specific problem of this kind of service, let alone one that might be relevant for a policy change in general. - Change your network design, NOW (or become LIR, or get PI, or everything) - No LIR would give away a part of their allocations for free if they can get $$$ for every IP they "own" soon - There is a reason for PA not being PI, maybe historical, but it's still there (Hello Gert/chairs, reminder - you wanted to share some more thought about the idea of making this go away in the (IPv6-)future? :-) ) - IPv6 transitions methods ARE there and usable, start deploying them today, and you won't have those problems later - There's always CGN, there are CATV providers (also some DSL providers) in my area that don't guarantee you a "public IPv4 address" at all anymore already in their terms and conditions and i actually think that's a smart choice - If you really need "other IPv4 addresses" after depletion because $management is too stupid to avoid this problem, pay the price for stupidity and buy them. I'm pretty sure the policy will allow it by then. Ressource transfer (of ALLOCATIONS that is) is possible, today already. That actually should cover most bases. [...further ranting about $the_world not deploying IPv6 10years ago already deleted due to lack of relevance...] -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Kind Regards Sascha Lenz [SLZ-RIPE] Senior System- & Network Architect