Hi Tore,

On 04/03/14 13:16, Tore Anderson wrote:

* Elvis Daniel Velea

Tore has also pointed out some precedent where ASSIGNED PIs have been
changed to ALLOCATED PAs.

Small correction here, I only noted that there exist some ALLOCATED PA
in the database that are smaller than the minimum allocation size. I do
not know how that came to be, so I don't know if they were ASSIGNED PI
before.

thanks for the correction. I was under the impression that you had remarked PI to PA conversions. I've only now checked the history of the blocks you have mentioned and these have always been ALLOCATED PA (with an allocation size lower than the minimum).


My point was that the minimum allocation size doesn't appear to be a
hard limit on what is the minimum ALLOCATED PA object that is allowed to
exist in the registry; but rather it should be considered the minimum
allocation size the RIPE NCC is willing to issue[1] new at any given
time. A PI->PA conversion isn't a "new issue" in that way, hence there's
no real reason to apply the minimum allocation size, IMHO. As those
mini-assignments are already in the registry, it doesn't hurt
aggregation either.

I understand and agree with you. However, let's not forget that the RIPE NCC has made in the past PI assignments of even a /29.

In any case, it would appear to me that the community is simply waiting
for someone (perhaps you and/or Erik?) to care enough to actually submit
a formal policy proposal to allow for such conversions. The NCC
indicated that they felt clear policy was needed.

I see. I was under a different impression, that the community was waiting for a policy proposal from Erik which would enable PI transfers.

Erik, are you working on a proposal that would (also) enable status changes? Do you need help with it?

cheers,
elvis

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