I didn't want to point the finger directly to the ones I was referring to but obviously I appologize to all other russians. It's just your company and mr. Bulgakov who have abused in my opinion of the last /8. But only because of 2 rotten apples I would not throw them all away. Ciprian On 6/9/2015 7:43 PM, Vladimir Andreev wrote:
You spoke that "some russians" make profit and don't speak about other nations.
Table of TOP transfers from your last letter shows it clearly.
09.06.2015, 19:33, "Ciprian Nica" <office@ip-broker.uk>:
On 6/9/2015 7:19 PM, Vladimir Andreev wrote:
help the last /8 pool become even larger
It's not true. There is still possibility to open multiple LIR's for the same person (legal or natural, no matter) and then merge them all together.
So this proposal (by itself) is not able to prevent /8 exhaustion
Puting an obstacle will probably reduce the "hoarding" so it would probably grow a little more than without this.
The only reason that I would sustain it for is the fact that I'm aware of some russians taking advantage and making a profit but I'm also aware that's just a small crumble and it won't affect our bread.
Please abstain from national attacks. It's bad style of discussion.
As a RIPE community member I don't have anything against russians. I would not call "hoarding" what happens today with the last /8 but here is the statistics.
+--------------------------------------------------------------+------+ | seller | /22s | +--------------------------------------------------------------+------+ | Bulgakov Aleksey Yurievich | 31 | | QuickSoft LLC | 30 | | Julian Alberto Gomez Hernandez trading as "Adjenet Networks" | 5 | | Abdulrahman Nassir Alahmari trading as SABAH | 4 | | Al Safwa Al Saudia for Development Ltd | 2 | +--------------------------------------------------------------+------+
Theese are the only persons/businesses that sold more than 1 x /22 from the last /8.
It's obviously that the whole discussion started after noticing the activity of the top 2, who happens to be from Russia.
Ciprian
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