I believe the proposal has great merit and needs further discussion, and is directly related to my email on the 12th July. "The other issue with suggesting that we use PI Space instead of PA Space where we will not be in a position to aggregate is the PI Assignment which would be approved would be less than a /24 (as we don't need 128 addresses for Multi-homed BGP Peering), therefore wouldn't be routable on the Internet (Policy proposal 2006-05 refers to this issue and suggests the smallest PI Space should be /24) So the only way to implement Multi-Homed BGP Routing from Multiple locations which don't need a full /24 network is to become a LIR and create smaller /25 or /26 inetnum's with larger /24 route objects from your PA Space. And since this is a workaround, just like a company stretching the truth about their IP requirements when applying for a PI Space to get a full /24, surely a LIR should be allowed to create inetnum's for a /24 when they also need to create a /24 route object." And while all transits may not route a /24 IP Range, the Tier1 transits we are paying for transit do route /24 networks, but are filtering anything smaller. Keith -----Original Message----- From: address-policy-wg-admin@ripe.net [mailto:address-policy-wg-admin@ripe.net] On Behalf Of Gert Doering Sent: 17 July 2009 09:42 To: Greg Cc: address-policy-wg@ripe.net Subject: Re: [address-policy-wg] Reopening discussion on RIPE Policy Proposal 2006-05 Hi, On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 09:41:00AM +0300, Greg wrote:
It's not a bad proposal - there was a great discussion before.
Having "great discussions" doesn't necessarily make it a *good* proposal either. The amount of discussions and mixed feedback we have seen tells me that we have no consenus yet to go forward with this proposal (not even "very rough"). I have on my TODO list to go through the PI numbers that Alex has posted and try to figure out how "real" this percieved problem is *today*, and then we can go forward with less emotional and more educated discussion. regards, Gert Doering -- APWG chair -- Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations: 128645 SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (89) 32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279