Hi, On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 06:09:21PM +0900, Randy Bush wrote:
i believe mueller's definition of a commons to be formally correct. but is arguing about the term of any constructive use?
It's not overly important whether we paint IP addresses red or blue, as long as we agree what can be done with blocks of those. So I agree with you here :-) Folks, we know that transfer policies are a very emotional thing - we've been there in with our local transfer policy, and I think Remco still has scars to show. So maybe take a step back and ask yourself whether you want a religios debate (which will not go anywhere), or whether we can find a pragmatic solution together that takes reality into account. So - I think it's unavoidable to accept that transfers *will* and *do* happen (if "IP networks as such" cannot be transferred, people will just trade parts of their company that happen to "own" the network resources). So what we should focus on is - ensure that we know who has a legitimate claim to which network ("owns it") - ensure that this is properly documented in all involved RIR registries Gert Doering -- APWG chair -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (89) 32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279