Frederic wrote:
Internet still works and works with gentlement agreement, and anyway you can hijack youtube's PA with the LIR status.... I would say: go for it.
It doesn't take long for you to disappear from the Internet then. A lot of people don't like other people messing with their networks.
yes of course, so contract change nothing for a correct relationship. gentleman agreement works fine.
With a contract somebody can sue you, with a "gentlemans agreement" one can't. What is your opposition to contracts at all? You will have to set up several contracts anyway already: - Sponsors - Connectivity provider (L2) - Connectivity provider (L3) - Datacenter, or separate: Power, Cooling etc - Security and a lot more. You do set up those, but you don't want them for a bit of address space. Odd. What do you have to worry about, that a contract doesn't suit you?
i talk about domain for procedure to keep in touch with the holder.
and after about why some domain are free (no contract and no fees), the must important is free to USE (because no contract).
As mentioned, when you get free stuff, it is not you who decided on how to use it.
of course IP are not domain.
i explain that is interesting to have the possiblity to have relationship with ripe when your are an internet ressource holder without to be be a LIR.
And to do that you will need to sign a contract with RIPE. You will be liable and responsible for the address block that you might receive. This all under the conditions set forth by the community.
but i would have the choice and let the choice to other. The contract of ripe will be interesting because you will have choice to say yes or no.
You have a simple two way choice: - you sign a contract and get your PI - you don't sign a contract and you don't.
if you need PI and after you grow, you can become LIR and change you PI with PA and like this have a contract with RIPE.
PI can't be converted to PA. PI is for end-sites. PA is for ISP's who provide aggregated connectivity to end-sites. What where your requirements again for all of this? Greets, Jeroen