On Wed, 17 Jul 2019, Sascha Luck [ml] wrote: (...)
Leaving the inherent silliness of "owning" or "administering" integers aside:
I own my car because "somebody, someday" told me (after money changing hands, of course) "this is yours". The same applies to the computer I'm writing this on. If you'd like to change this you're welcome to try and take them off me and see how far you get ;)
Hi Sascha, All. If someone tries to hijack your car or your computer, jurisdiction should be clear, and you will know *where* to present a report. That, unfortunately has no paralell for IP addressing -- well, maybe except in the LACNIC region where they have WARP (Warning Advice and Reporting Point). I don't know how many people are aware about WARP's existence, i just found out about it quite recently :-)
However, pushing for a conversion from legacy to "RIR system" looks very delicate. Not sure that legally it can be forced (probably in some countries the regulator may be able to do something, but I wouldn't count on that). As for "do it for you own good", while this may not work today, some day everybody would better get into the RPKI bandwagon, at which point the RIRs would be in a strong position to "kindly" ask holders to convert the legacy resources to "RIR system". If the will id there, which is an entirely different issue.
I don't think the RIRs should get into the business of extortion any more than into theft. Nothing good can conceivably come off that.
Afaik access to the certification service (RPKI) is voluntary and is already available for legacy holders that engage with the RIR system (see ripe-724, republished yesterday from ripe-674 and ripe-615). Regards, Carlos
rgds, Sascha Luck