Hi Jan,

thanks for you reply

Il 11/06/2015 23.56, Jan Ingvoldstad ha scritto:
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 11:48 PM, Riccardo Gori <rgori@wirem.net> wrote:
Hi all,

fixed that I am against abuses. I think we have to keep in mind that RIPE task is resource distribution not holding them in a drawer.

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06/2015 - AVAILABLE IPv4 /8s IN
RIPE 1.09
ARIN 0.13
https://www.ripe.net/publications/ipv6-info-centre/about-ipv6/ipv4-exhaustion/ipv4-available-pool-graph
https://www.arin.net/

task: distribute resources. ARIN has almost reached the task don't you think?
Was ironic to point out that there are many different point of views.
Someone thinks that IPv6 will grow when IPv4 will be completly exhausted.
I can't see any other reason to allow inter-RIR transfert (2014-05) to address the need of address space where is available or "stock-piled and unused"
So the good guy who stockpiled is the old cheater that needed IPv4 /15 - /17 or the new cheater that needed many IPv4 /22 ? I see no differences.
About the policy in RIPE region:
Acceped march 2015: 2014-04, "Removing IPv6 Requirement for Receiving Space from the Final /8"
Acceped april 2015: 2014-05 Proposal Accepted (Policy for Inter-RIR Transfers of Internet Resources)
I see easiness
in 2015-01 I see "alignement", you can find the same rule 24months in 2014-05


Without acknowledging your interpretation of "distributing resources", I would like to point out that when ARIN in a very short time no longer has any of these resources to distribute, they will, _forever_, fail to do their task, while RIPE still will carry out that task.
I think they should have an IPv6 /12 as other RIRs to distribute...

So if we accepted your premise that that is _The Task_, RIPE will be performing the task better than ARIN, and not vice versa.
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Jan
I think both are complying the task as well as the bottom-up approved policies.

regards
good night
Riccardo

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Riccardo Gori
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