Hi Mike,

On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se> wrote:
On Thu, 29 Sep 2011, Michel Py wrote:

I hate to sound brutal, but why should I believe that you will find the Holy Grail that everyone else has been searching for over the last 15 years? I heard it all, I wrote part of it. There is NO solution to make renumbering easy and there is NO solution nearly as good as PI for multihoming.

I am well aware of this.


Stop the vaporware. What you want does not exist. Unlike the IETF, ARIN

I never said it did.


I'm tired of hearing "we need to". I have been hearing this for 15 years, enough of this. Oh, BTW, I tried too. You don't have anything; when you do, deliver it and come back to us.

We still need to in the long term. IPv6 PI, ie keeping state for all end-users in all DFZ routers on the Internet, does not scale with billions of routes.

So yes, there is no solution right now, that doesn't mean IPv6 PI is any kind of long term solution.

Yes, fully agree here.
 
We know it's bad, we still use it because there is no better way right now. That doesn't mean we should give up.

It's again tragedy of the commons. For the individual user, PI is always the easiest way out. For humanity/Internet as a whole in the long term, not so much.

But let's get IPv6 implemented, a few hundred thousand more routes doesn't really matter, as long as they don't turn into many millions.

I realy would like to know what makes you so optimistic? While you think so that a few hundred thousands more routes doesn!t really matter?

Which kind of routers/line cards could support this at wire speed? Any summary of convergence issues in large scale network?

Am I missed some new technology that is already implemented allmost everywhere?

 

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Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike@swm.pp.se

I would be glad to receive additional information here, if this exists, please share it!

Many thanks,

Géza