We are facing a different issue but would also like a reevaluation of the policy. We have a fair amount of customers that have IPv4 PI space for valid reasons. The IPv6 PI policy calls for demonstrated multihoming - which if we read it correctly means that if these customers want to migrate from IPv4 to IPv6 all of a sudden they will require an ASN as well as a second transit provider. We would like to see a provision in the policy that allows IPv4 to IPv6 migrations with regards to PI space - say if you qualified for IPv4 PI space - irrespective of what the rules are for IPv6 PI space - you will always qualify for IPv6 PI space. This will allow stricter rules for new applications while also easing the migration from v4 to v6. Jasper -----Original Message----- From: address-policy-wg-admin@ripe.net [mailto:address-policy-wg-admin@ripe.net] On Behalf Of Vegar Løvås Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 2:08 PM To: Yasen Simeonov(Neterra NMT) Cc: address-policy-wg@ripe.net Subject: Re: [address-policy-wg] IPv6 PI resource question! Hello, I also thinks this policy should be reevaluated. We are experiencing almost the same issue, but more related to the "your infrastructure" part. One of our customers is a hosting company, and their application got rejected because they wanted to use the addresses for their shared hosting service. This is not how it should be, as a shared hosting server has 1 IP address shared among all of the customers. Why would each customer need it's own allocation? -- Best regards, Vegar Løvås Rent a Rack AS On 14.02.2011 13:59, Yasen Simeonov(Neterra NMT) wrote:
Thanks for the replay. I think this should be reevaluated!
On 14/02/2011 12:43, Sander Steffann wrote:
With IPv6 you don't give every user one IP address (which would be your infrastructure), but you usually assign them a block of addresses. For making assignments to end-users you need a PA block. And: there is no 'your infrastructure' rule for IPv6. That is only defined for IPv4. Is that mean that the ISPs should make an entry in the RIPE's database for each household to which gives access to the Internet?
Here is reveal the danger we as LIR can not give PI IPv6 to this ISP, but some of our competitors /another LIR/ to conceal the fact that they will be given to end customers / households / and the ISP will receive this resource.
How would you advise a small ISP in a small rural area which has no financial ability to pay the fee for becoming LIR, to be independent from the upstream provider ?
What would be the reason a company that deals with Internet delivery can not get a PI IPv6 resources, but a company which is engaged in other activity can get it.
Please share your opinion.
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