Hello, Kai!

As I know, PI for IPv4 not possible to obtain for new users.

One of chance - buy company with allocated PI.

Another way - Allocate from LIR's PA.

If member want to become BGP peer with routed IPv4 addresses he can use network from LIR's PA.

But, this PA may be recalled when LIR will be closed.

And no another way for end-user.

One end least way for end-user - use PA and have risk of recall.

As result PI can't help cuz PI can't be issued anymore.

So time to change policy is coming.

On Thu, 7 Mar 2019 at 01:30, Kai 'wusel' Siering <wusel+ml@uu.org> wrote:

Moin,

on 06.03.2019 22:23, Maxim A Piskunov wrote:
> Current policy do not protect end-users.

That's true; for one, that's the reason why there's this whole PI stuff, where End Users can ask for resources assigned directly to them. They need a sponsoring LIR, but in the event that LIR vanishes, a new can be choosen (given whois is kept accurate).

Thus I see no need for any policy change.

Regards,
-kai