Hi, On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 12:03:15PM +0200, Marco Schmidt wrote:
There might be other options that this working group can consider and discuss.
I would be very interested to hear from a few LIRs that have more than 10 allocations what their reasoning is. I know at least one enterprise that has 3 LIR accounts for different parts of their business ("internal DC networks", "cloud stuff", "office networks") which are sufficiently disjoint that they effectively are 3 different companies, owned by the same mothership - so I do understand why some setups need/want "a handful" of allocations. I can also understand a setup where a multinational ISP is organized in a way so that every country network is served by a distinct LIR, so each can handle their local addressing needs as they find appropriate - and I'd also say that this is a good use of resources (and if the company decides that they want to merge all these LIRs into one umbrella account later, you'd end up with 10+ /29s). UUnet used to do that "back in the IPv4 days", and ended up with a big stack of red voting cards at AGM :-) So, these use cases I fully understand, and find them well within the goals of the IPv6 policy - make sure people have addresses to number their networks - make sure the RIPE NCC knows where these addresses are (registry) That said, I lack imagination why LIRs would need much higher numbers of /29, so it would be good to hear about the underlying reasoning - speculation won't adjust the policies in a positive way. *That* said, I'm not alarmed either, yet. 102 /29s is, in total, a /22 of IPv6 space. If this happens a few times per RIR, it won't make a noticeable dent in the available IPv6 space - which is, of course, the other aspect we need to take into account "will $this make us run out of address space in the next 50 years?". As of now, I'm more worried about deaggregation and routing table slots than I am about total address space burn rate. Gert Doering -- just a long time IPv6 policy geek -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard, Michael Emmer Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (0)89/32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279