> I guess the option is 1) we will be presenting the proposal at RIPE meeting.

The ETNO, an association of Europe's largest Internet network operators, has unanimously opposed this proposal: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2008-03.html

Specifically, in the presentation at RIPE 55 http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-55/presentations/mcfadden-etno.pdf they stated that IPv4 countdown proposals which suggest countdowns or set-asides are not needed and artificial. They also state that RIPE should continue to use the existing processes that it always has used.

This may explain why it was never discussed on the list, i.e. most people thought that it would never, ever be accepted by RIPE. Given this fact, will your presentation specifically address the major flaw of the proposal, i.e. that it will actually MAKE THINGS WORSE by making the date of free pool exhaustion earlier than we had expected?

In addition, will your presentation review the status of this proposal in the other 4 RIRs, particularly in ARIN where it has not received much support. Since your proposal is a global one, under the NRO rules, it has to be passed by all 5 RIRs. If it has already failed elsewhere, then why should RIPE waste anymore time with it?

--Michael Dillon