Hi, On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 05:27:06PM +0200, Filiz Yilmaz wrote:
I am not a lawyer, but hypothetically speaking, if your proposal gets accepted there is some (again totally hypothetical?) potential that some LIRs may chose to rush and get whatever is left in the NCC pool (which is the rest of the last /8?) without really needing them, simply because they do not need to show any justification after all. They want it, they will get it and probably RIPE NCC will have to deal with some very serious First in First Out (granted) service scheme...
Uh, Filiz, there is no real difference between "old policy" and "with 2013-03 in place" in that regard. Both limit the address space that a single LIR can "rush and get whatever is left" to a *single /22*. So if you want to hoard, you need to open 5000 LIRs today, each of them applying for a /22, and documenting the need for a *single* IPv4 address (as the /22 allocation is not sized based on the difference between "I need a single address" vs. "I need a /8" - need is need) and a single IPv4 address is easier documented than a new corporation opened to become LIR. If you want it after 2013-03 is in place, you need to open 5000 LIRs, each of them applying for a /22, and not documenting the need for a single IPv4 address anymore. But you still need to incoprorate 5000 companies. The only place where "document need" makes a difference is if a LIR already has allocated space, which needs to be filled to 80% today, and that would go away with 2013-03 - but there is just no way a single LIR can "grab the rest of the last /8 pool". But maybe I'm misunderstanding your point? (The /22 in the "last /8 policy" was chosen to ensure that every single LIR in existence today can get their /22, and we'll still have some left - the /8 will last for 16.000 /22s, and the number of active LIR is still below 9000 today) Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (89) 32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279