May 2023 - address-policy-wg - mailman.ripe.net

2023-02 Extended Review Phase (Minimum Size for IPv4 Temporary Assignments)
by Angela Dall'Ara 29 May '23

29 May '23

Dear colleagues, The policy proposal 2023-02, "Minimum Size for IPv4 Temporary Assignments" is now in the extended Review Phase in an updated version. Following up on the feedback received, the wording was simplified without changing the proposal content. This policy proposal recommends setting the minimum assignment size for IPv4 temporary assignments to a /24,while still allowing for a smaller assignment if requested by the End User. This policy proposal also allows routing requirements to justify the request for more than a /24 for research purposes. As per the RIPE Policy Development Process (PDP), the purpose of this Review Phase extension is to continue discussing the proposal taking the impact analysis into consideration, and to review the updated versionof the full draft RIPE Policy Document. At the end of the Review Phase, the Working Group (WG) Chairs will determine whether the WG has reached rough consensus. It is therefore important to provide your opinion, even if it is simply a restatement of your input from the previous phase. If you support this version of the proposal (v 2.0), please indicate that support with a simple message to the mailing list. If you have objections or would like a change, please provide that feedback to the mailing list. You can find the proposal and impact analysis at: _https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies/proposals/2023-02_ _https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies/proposals/2023-02#impact-analysi… And the draft document at: _https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies/proposals/2023-02/draft_ We encourage you to read the proposal, impact analysis and draft document and to send any comments to address-policy-wg(a)ripe.net before 29May 2023. Kind regards, Angela Dall'Ara Policy Officer RIPE NCC

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2023-01 Extended Discussion Phase (Reducing IXP IPv4 assignment default size to a /26)
by Angela Dall'Ara 29 May '23

29 May '23

Dear colleagues, The policy proposal 2023-01, "Reducing IXP IPv4 assignment default size to a /26" is now in the extended Discussion Phase. This proposal modifies the default size of IPv4 assignments for IXPs from a /24 to /26 and clarifies the return of the assignments previously issued for their IXP peering LAN. The Discussion Phase has been extended as there was some support for the concept, but no feedback was sent on v 2.0. As per the RIPE Policy Development Process (PDP), the purpose of this five-week Discussion Phase is to discuss the proposal and provide feedback to the proposers. If you support this version of the proposal (v 2.0), please indicate that support with a simple message to the mailing list. If you have objections or would like a change, please provide that feedback to the mailing list. At the end of the Discussion Phase, the proposers, with the agreement of the WG Chairs, will decide how to proceed with the proposal. You can find the full proposal at: https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies/proposals/2023-01 <https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies/proposals/2023-01> The PDP document can be found at: https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-781 <https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-781> We encourage you to review this proposal and send your comments to address-policy-wg(a)ripe.net before 29 May 2023. Kind regards, Angela Dall'Ara Policy Officer RIPE NCC

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IPv6 policy
by jordi.palet＠consulintel.es 24 May '23

24 May '23

As usual, I’m happy to take over the job of drafting a new policy proposal (I’ve already drafted something some months ago). I can do it alone or together with some other folks. (sorry was not able to join this morning, but just looked at the video) Regards, Jordi @jordipalet ********************************************** IPv4 is over Are you ready for the new Internet ? http://www.theipv6company.com The IPv6 Company This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for the exclusive use of the individual(s) named above and further non-explicilty authorized disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited and will be considered a criminal offense. If you are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited, will be considered a criminal offense, so you must reply to the original sender to inform about this communication and delete it.

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2023-02 Minimum Size for IPv4 Temporary Assignments
by Peter Hessler 19 May '23

19 May '23

I support this proposal. I initially was confused on the second clause of the new text for section 3.3, but it became clear when I read the entire context within the new proposal. -peter -- Weinberg's First Law: Progress is made on alternate Fridays.

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Chair re-appointment - RIPE86
by Erik Bais 17 May '23

17 May '23

Dear Working group, As you might remember, the WG Chairs are appointed for a set term as that reminds us now and then, for both the WG Chair as the WG, to think about if we are still happy with the current chair setup. More insight on the terms can be found at the AP-WG page on the RIPE website: https://www.ripe.net/participate/ripe/wg/active-wg/ap This RIPE86, the first term of both James Kennedy and Leo Vegoda is done and both stated that they would be more than happy to do another term. As the co-Chair of AP-WG, I'm glad that both want to run again for the stability of the WG, however in the end it is up to the WG if you are as well. So during the AP-WG session, we will have time in the agenda to ask the WG if you like to proceed with the current WG Chair setup. If you to replace one or both WG Chairs, please let me know up front and I will contact you to ask a couple questions in regards of introduction .. and we will ask the WG if they would like a WG chair change. We like to hear in the WG if you like to support the current WG chairs (or not) ... this can be done by a reply on this email, or during the meeting. See you all next week in Rotterdam. Regards, Erik Bais Co-Chair AP-WG

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Checking interest in the community for changing IPv4 assignments policy
by Jeroen Lauwers 17 May '23

17 May '23

Hi Everyone, Now RIPE 86 is around the corner Tore and I would like to check if there is any interest in changing the way of making assignments in the IPv4 policy. At this moment we got 3 major points coming repetitively back from the community. 1. The current policy asks for a lot of repetitive work in making these assignments and it would be nice if, with a policy change, a lot of this repetitive work could be taken away. 2. There is a lot of under and over-assigning in the RIPE DB where a policy change would be beneficial to take some of the reasons away for this. 3. Policy 6.3 “Network Infrastructure and End User Networks” can be interpreted differently for what the right use case is. Including the feedback from the previous policy proposal, we are thinking about introducing AGGREGATED-BY-LIR status just as in the IPv6 policy. In this way, we can aggregate multiple assignments into one AGGREGATED-BY-LIR assignment which we think would result in improving the above-mentioned points. We would like to check what the community thinks about this plan and if there is enough positive feedback we would like to make a concept proposal from it and present this at RIPE86. Kind regards, Jeroen

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2023-01 - New Version Policy Proposal (Reducing IXP IPv4 assignment default size to a /26)
by Angela Dall'Ara 16 May '23

16 May '23

Dear colleagues, RIPE policy proposal 2023-01, "Reducing IXP IPv4 assignment default size to a /26" is now available for discussion again. The goal of this proposal is to reduce the default size of IPv4 assignments for IXPs from a /24 to /26 and clarifies the return of the assignments previously issued for their IXP peering LAN. Following the last round of discussion, this proposal has been updated and it is now at version 2.0. The main difference from version 1.0 is that IXPs are not required to implement the exchange of IPv4 routing information over IPv6 before requesting an assignment larger than a /24. You can find the full proposal at: https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies/proposals/2023-01 As per the RIPE Policy Development Process (PDP), the purpose of this four-week Discussion Phase is to discuss the proposal and provide feedback to the proposer. At the end of the Discussion Phase, the proposers, with the agreement of the WG Chairs, will decide how to proceed with the proposal. The PDP document can be found at: https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-781 We encourage you to review this proposal and send your comments to address-policy-wg(a)ripe.net before 4 April 2023. Kind regards, Angela Dall'Ara Policy Officer RIPE NCC

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Draft Address Policy WG Agenda - RIPE 86
by James Kennedy 12 May '23

12 May '23

Dear Address Policy WG, This is the draft agenda for our sessions in Rotterdam at RIPE 86 later this month. If you would like to add a topic for discussion, please send us an email at apwg-chairs(a)ripe.net. Regards, James (on behalf of the co-chairs) Address Policy Working Group Wednesday, 24 May 10:30 - 11:30 (UTC+2) Chaired By: Erik Bais, James Kennedy, Leo Vegoda A. Introduction [5 mins] B. Chair Selection [5 mins] C. ASO AC Update [10 mins] D. Registry Services Update Followed by Q&A [15 minutes] E. Policy Update Followed by Q&A [15 mins] F. Concept: AGGREGATED-BY-LIR status for IPv4 PA assignments [10 mins] Wednesday, 24 May 11:00 - 12:00 (UTC+2) Chaired By: Erik Bais, James Kennedy, Leo Vegoda G. 2023-01: Reducing IXP IPv4 assignment default size to a /26 [15 mins] H. 2023-02: Minimum Size for IPv4 Temporary Assignments [15 mins] I. IPv6 Policy Review [25 mins] J. AOB [5 mins]

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2023-02 - Review Phase Ended (Minimum Size for IPv4 Temporary Assignments)
by James Kennedy 07 May '23

07 May '23

Dear All, The Review Phase of policy proposal 2023-02 - Minimum Size for IPv4 Temporary Assignments - ended on 2nd May, 2023. https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies/proposals/2023-02 Taking into consideration the feedback received, the proposers will work on making the wording of their proposal clearer. The change will be purely editorial, the content will not be modified. The RIPE NCC will soon publish the new version of the proposal and the policy draft, and announce an extension of the Review Phase. Regards, James co-chair apwg

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Fwd: Coop WG interim session on Wednesday, May 3rd 15:00-16:00 CEST
by Leo Vegoda 03 May '23

03 May '23

Dear Address Policy WG, Please review the pages linked in Desiree, Julf, and Achilleas's message below. Kind regards, Leo Vegoda, for the Address Policy WG co-chairs ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Desiree Miloshevic <miloshevic(a)gmail.com> Date: Wed, 3 May 2023 at 02:37 Subject: Coop WG interim session on Wednesday, May 3rd 15:00-16:00 CEST To: <wg-chairs(a)ripe.net> Cc: Cooperation WG Chairs <cooperation-wg-chairs(a)ripe.net> Dear WG chairs Please find the announcement about Cooperation Working Group Small Task Team session today at 15:00 - 16:00 CEST. We would be grateful if you could share it with your working group members as well. https://www.ripe.net/participate/ripe/wg/active-wg/coop/interim-sessions/co… The announcement was sent to the mailing list as well. https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-list/2023-March/002814.html Best Desiree, Julf, Achilleas -- Coop WG Co-Chairs

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