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RIPE 79 Address Policy WG Draft Minutes
by Petrit Hasani 10 Jun '20

10 Jun '20

Dear colleagues, The draft minutes from the Address Policy Working Group sessions at RIPE 79 have now been published: https://www.ripe.net/participate/ripe/wg/ap/minutes/ripe-79-address-policy-… Please let us know of any corrections or amendments. Kind regards, -- Petrit Hasani Policy Officer RIPE NCC

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29 May '20

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Re: [address-policy-wg] policy compliance dashboard
by Michele Neylon - Blacknight 14 May '20

14 May '20

Lack of response to who? The NCC? What benefit is this meant to bring? I'd assume the NCC would already know about members who aren't paying their bills or otherwise in breach of contractual obligations. Members who "care" will probably deal with issues and those who don't care won't start caring, so I'm struggling to see what value this brings Regards Michele -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com https://blacknight.blog / http://ceo.hosting/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park, Sleaty Road, Graiguecullen, Carlow, R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845 On 13/05/2020, 10:41, "address-policy-wg on behalf of JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via address-policy-wg" <address-policy-wg-bounces(a)ripe.net on behalf of address-policy-wg(a)ripe.net> wrote: After my comment in the Addressing Policy meeting, I decided to go ahead with this email, maybe it can a provocation for some inputs in the open mic ... Note that this text is from my AFRINIC proposal (to make it quick now), so disregard parts that may not correctly matches the RIPE NCC situation and may be some of the things are already done here. Text: ***** "The Policy Compliance Dashboard” shows to each member its status of policy compliance, collected by means of a periodical review, automated as much as possible. The dashboard will show all possible details to match the policies and RSA, such as: * Contractual obligations (such as status of payments or documents). * Lack of response from the member. * Unused or unannounced resources (where mandatory). * Unavailable or outdated Whois information. * Lack of maintenance of the reverse delegation. * Forbidden sub-assignments (from PI assignments). * Unauthorized transfers. * Tracking of repeated and/or continued policy violations. The dashboard automation will need to be accommodated along policies evolves thru the PDP, in order to display new details. The dashboard will automatically send notifications of the status of compliance to members, after each review or dashboard update. Reminders will be periodically sent in case of any lack of compliance. In this case, warnings will be also sent to the staff. ***** I've also the feeling that it may be more appropriate for Services WG, so copied as well. Any thoughts? Regards, Jordi @jordipalet ********************************************** IPv4 is over Are you ready for the new Internet ? http://www.theipv6company.com The IPv6 Company This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for the exclusive use of the individual(s) named above and further non-explicilty authorized disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited and will be considered a criminal offense. If you are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited, will be considered a criminal offense, so you must reply to the original sender to inform about this communication and delete it.

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policy compliance dashboard
by JORDI PALET MARTINEZ 13 May '20

13 May '20

After my comment in the Addressing Policy meeting, I decided to go ahead with this email, maybe it can a provocation for some inputs in the open mic ... Note that this text is from my AFRINIC proposal (to make it quick now), so disregard parts that may not correctly matches the RIPE NCC situation and may be some of the things are already done here. Text: ***** "The Policy Compliance Dashboard” shows to each member its status of policy compliance, collected by means of a periodical review, automated as much as possible. The dashboard will show all possible details to match the policies and RSA, such as: * Contractual obligations (such as status of payments or documents). * Lack of response from the member. * Unused or unannounced resources (where mandatory). * Unavailable or outdated Whois information. * Lack of maintenance of the reverse delegation. * Forbidden sub-assignments (from PI assignments). * Unauthorized transfers. * Tracking of repeated and/or continued policy violations. The dashboard automation will need to be accommodated along policies evolves thru the PDP, in order to display new details. The dashboard will automatically send notifications of the status of compliance to members, after each review or dashboard update. Reminders will be periodically sent in case of any lack of compliance. In this case, warnings will be also sent to the staff. ***** I've also the feeling that it may be more appropriate for Services WG, so copied as well. Any thoughts? Regards, Jordi @jordipalet ********************************************** IPv4 is over Are you ready for the new Internet ? http://www.theipv6company.com The IPv6 Company This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for the exclusive use of the individual(s) named above and further non-explicilty authorized disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited and will be considered a criminal offense. If you are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited, will be considered a criminal offense, so you must reply to the original sender to inform about this communication and delete it.

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Re: [address-policy-wg] My response to Ronald Guilmette
by Elad Cohen 04 May '20

04 May '20

Gert, Please forgive me for missing that misleading reply of yours and I'm sure that you are interested to hear my response. (anyone can just skip to the last part, about our fake Chairman) --- "Calling someone "a Coconut" is definitely not the type of tone we want here. Stick to factual discussions, take the name-calling elsewhere." --- You are twisting the facts, it was the Coconut that started it all months ago at Nanog and also here in the Anti-Abuse Working Group. The coconut called me in many names over a period of months without a single proof against me - also in your working group - and you did nothing (if you are going to say: but the Coconut didn't say your name in our group - well he didn't but you could still say something). --- "Calling someone "a Coconut" is definitely not the type of tone we want here. Stick to factual discussions, take the name-calling elsewhere." --- I didn't hear you or anyone else writing anything to the Coconut in the many months that the Coconut defamed me without a single proof against me, only because I dared to stood up against the illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project". --- Yes! I was so hoping for a new round of "Gert Doering is totally unworthy of being a WG chair". We haven't had this in a long while. --- You are not worth to be in any leading role when you make decisions based on connections and who you know. --- I'm not attacking anyone, I'm just trying to remind people of house rules. You are are calling names, and you are damaging your own reputation by repeatedly refusing to adhere to list etiquette aka "house rules". --- You didn't remind to the Coconut any of the house rules, you are just saying "we didn't know to whom the coconut refers and now we know and we will tell nothing to the coconut but we will not vote to the person that he referred to" - I hope that the readers see clearly what you are doing. And last but not least, because you are obviously interested that our Chairman will be re-elected and that is the only reason that you want to show to the readers why they shouldn't elect me, it is important to me to write the following lines to the readers: On 14th of April our Chairman supported the nomination of Maria Hall and another candidate in the following two links: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/agm-nominations/2020-April/000690.h… https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/agm-nominations/2020-April/000691.h… Then 15 minutes after it, Maria Hall supported the nomination of our Chairman in the following link: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/agm-nominations/2020-April/000692.h… But there is something strange in the description that Maria Hall wrote: The line "Reason for nominating the candidate:" appear twice right below each other: Reason for nominating the candidate: Reason for nominating the candidate: Christian is very active in the RIPE community, where he has attended every meeting for several years and is Co-Chair of the RIPE MAT WG. In the last four years, Christian served on the RIPE NCC Executive Board as Secretary and since 2018 is the Executive Board Chairman. Christian has shown very strong and positive leadership in his role as chair of the board and I know that, both in the present situation and in upcoming times, Christians leadership, dedication and passion will be absolutely necessary for RIPE NCC. This is because she did copy-paste, she did copy paste for the whole paragraph that was sent to her (including the title) from our respected Chairman that wrote it on himself, and all she did was copy-paste, is this what we want ? a fake Chairman ? look what he wrote on himself. Look how Gert is pushing that no change in the Board will be made. You are being manipulated dear readers. Please allow me repeat what our Chairman wrote on himself: "Christian has shown very strong and positive leadership in his role as chair of the board and I know that, both in the present situation and in upcoming times, Christians leadership, dedication and passion will be absolutely necessary for RIPE NCC" Is this the board that you want ? a fake board ? Who knows what is going on with the expenses, to where they are flowing, any request for detailed information of RIPE expenses is being redirected to these people in the Board that say that NDA is signed with all the suppliers. Can we trust them when they are cheating the community in such a way ? Gert, I'm asking from you not to take part in it and to cheat the community as well. Now Gert will probably moderate me so I will not write any other truth which is against his interests. Respectfully, Elad ________________________________ From: Gert Doering Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 1:33 PM To: Elad Cohen Cc: Gert Doering; address-policy-wg(a)ripe.net Subject: Re: [address-policy-wg] My response to Ronald Guilmette Hi, On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 10:16:41AM +0000, Elad Cohen wrote: > I didn't attack anyone, I only responded to a defamation post against me in your working group, which to it you didn't write anything. > > Ronald is aCoconut by many people, and he is defaming me and calling me > in names for many many months, including in the post in your own working > group - which you completely ignored As I said, it was not necessary to have a third WG chair repeat the same thing that Briand and Denis already said. Calling someone "a Coconut" is definitely not the type of tone we want here. Stick to factual discussions, take the name-calling elsewhere. (Note that Ronald did not mention your name at all, so it is very helpful that you make abundantly clear *who* he refers to, so we can do a much better informed executive board election). > - so this says a lot about yourself and about your title as a co-chair, Yes! I was so hoping for a new round of "Gert Doering is totally unworthy of being a WG chair". We haven't had this in a long while. > So go ahead, Gert, attack me once more in an unbalanced way. I'm not attacking anyone, I'm just trying to remind people of house rules. You are are calling names, and you are damaging your own reputation by repeatedly refusing to adhere to list etiquette aka "house rules". Gert Doering -- AWPG chair -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard, Michael Emmer Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (0)89/32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279

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